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Last post 09-04-2010, 2:24 PM by One2gofst. 17 replies.
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     09-02-2010, 2:25 PM

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    I have not been smoking cigars very long so this is something im still working on. I have a pretty nice Colibri torch which I use and have tried a few different techniques but sometimes still have trouble with it burning evenly.

    As of right now, i'll toast the end a little and then ill take small puffs, rotating the cigar, attempting to light it evenly. Once that is done ill gently blow on the end to see if there are any spots I missed and if so try to light that area a little better (during this whole process I hold it at a 45degree angle in relation to the flame, but not in the flame of course). I have gotten much better, and about half the time i will get a good light but sometimes it is still off. Does anyone have any suggestions orrr is this just something i will just get better at the more I do it?...lol
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     09-02-2010, 2:39 PM

    Sounds like you have the right technique down. One thing I would add is that when you toast, you toast it gently, slowly bringing the foot up in temperature. You don't want to "flash sear" the foot, which will throw the flavors off.

    Also make sure the foot is completely and evenly toasted as well. I've found that a toasted part of the foot will burn at a different rate than an untoasted part when I go in for the light. One last thing. I always check to make sure my wrapper is also burning properly after I light.
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     09-02-2010, 3:52 PM

    A properly humidified/rested cigar will burn more evenly than one that isn't. Sometimes it doesn't matter how well you light it, if the cigar isn't constructed well. I'd say that one out of every 10 cigars I have doesn't burn perfect and one out of every 20 doesn't burn well at all. Point being, a good light is good, but its not remotely crucial to the cigar burning well. Its construction, humidity, and smoking technique that is 95% of a good burn. Most of the time I am lighting a cigar off of a short CCOM match, so its rarely lit perfect, but a well kept/constructed cigar always comes around.
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     09-02-2010, 4:13 PM

    and more to the point, now that I re-read your question. The light of a cigar is a little over-hyped. The big ring gauges can be a little tricky, but as I said before, your enjoyment of the cigars burn is 95% humidity, construction, and smoking technique. As long as you don't light your cigars with gasoline or a pile of burning mayonaise, theres not you can screw up there so long as you get it hot all the way around.
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     09-02-2010, 4:18 PM

    Practice makes perfect, and oh what fun it is!
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     09-02-2010, 5:51 PM

    You got a good technique down, just a little tip...when I toast my cigar, I like to let it "settle down" before I start to smoke it. If a cigar gets too hot, it won't taste good...so letting it cool down a little after lighting keeps that from happening.
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     09-02-2010, 6:10 PM

    Krieg:
    You got a good technique down, just a little tip...when I toast my cigar, I like to let it "settle down" before I start to smoke it. If a cigar gets too hot, it won't taste good...so letting it cool down a little after lighting keeps that from happening.
    + 1 to what others have said - it's all about construction, humidity, and smoking technique. In addition, some cigars have a terrible burn when they first get off the USPS truck, but after a little aging in the humi, have a fine burn (5 Vegas Gold Maduro is a good example of this)

    Also, that's a good idea from Krieg there. In addition, you can also 'purge' it (that is, blow out) to push out any residual butane taste from the lighter. But don't do it too often - only once when you get done lighting. After that, the only time you'd ever really purge is if it goes out and you re-light it (purge after re-lighting), or if the cigar turns bitter or harsh, in which case you purge once to push out the foul smoke and (hopefully) go back to enjoying the cigar.

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     09-02-2010, 6:52 PM

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    Thanks a lot everyone, if I don't have one tonight I will be tomorrow night so ill try out those few little things and let you all know how it went. One problem I believe contributed, like a few of you have mentioned, was humidity. At first I had kept my humi at around 70-72% (small, holds 50), but i dropped it down to 68% to see if that would help or not.
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     09-02-2010, 7:36 PM

    Depending on what cigars you are smoking (stong vs mild, Maduro wrapper?) you might want to try a technique called "Dry Boxing" your cigars. Full bodied sticks, anything with lots of Ligero leaf and some dark Maduro cigars will sometimes burn better when they are a little dryer than your humidor will allow. You can use an un-humidified small humidor or even an empty cigar box with a good lid. Put a cigar in it for anywhere from a few hours or even a few DAYS....yes, I said DAYS, for some cigars. This allows the cigar to dry a little, since the natural oils in the tobacco will compensate for the lack of humidity when smoked.

    Don't just take my word for it, here is the link to the ccom video regarding the 5 Vegas Relic. Watch the video and see how Josh suggests to "Dry Box" this cigar, and the reasons why. I love the Relic, and it's a must for the Dry Box!
    http://www.viddler.com/explore/ccomvideo/videos/139/65.033/
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    So, if you have burn issues with stronger cigars, give it a try. You might be glad you did.



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     09-02-2010, 9:30 PM

    I use a torch lighter to light my cigars, but I don't puff on them at all until fully light. Basically I slowly toast the foot till its mostly red, then will stop for a minute or two and let that ash over a tiny bit. Then I re-toast quite a bit until its light, I will blow to find spots that are not fully going, and re-toast them. To me, drawing with a flame near the foot always seems to give me a bad taste, which seems to linger for the cigar. Lighting without drawing will use up a bit more fuel, but I feel I get a better light and better taste as a result. Your results may vary.
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     09-02-2010, 9:48 PM

    Looks good, but try it outside in the dark where you can really see the flame. You can really refine your technique by doing that. I found that I was really torching my cigars a couple years ago.
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     09-02-2010, 11:12 PM

    Amos Umwhat:
    Practice makes perfect, and oh what fun it is!
    well spoken.
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     09-02-2010, 11:41 PM

    I always enjoy the lighting part of the cigar... It's a dance, take your time, if you rush it then the cigar starts off "HOT" and tastes bad... you'll begin to tell when this happens... If you do it right, the first draw is spectacular and you're in the for a treat

    And I do purge, just when it get's a little hot, or it is burning weird I blow out a little, that gets the cherry glowing hot, and then let it sit for awhile to bring the cigar back in check....

    Like everyone else has said... practice makes perfect!

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     09-03-2010, 10:32 PM

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    Well, I just tried another tonight (RP Edge Maduro) and it did do a little better. I took a little more time lighting it and puffed only a few times towards the end of lighting it. It started off pretty even and then one side slacked a little. I let it go and paid a little more attention to it but it was not evening out so I brushed the ash off and hit that area a little one more time. After that it did pretty well, the burn was a little bumpy but evened out, and didn't really start going out until that last 1.5in. Next time im going to try the dry box technique that you mentioned camgfs as most of mine do tend to be full bodied, but overall this time was an improvement to the last. So, like you all have said "Practice makes perfect", and im going to keep on practicing!!
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     09-03-2010, 11:27 PM

    dhall6:
    Well, I just tried another tonight (RP Edge Maduro) and it did do a little better. I took a little more time lighting it and puffed only a few times towards the end of lighting it. It started off pretty even and then one side slacked a little. I let it go and paid a little more attention to it but it was not evening out so I brushed the ash off and hit that area a little one more time. After that it did pretty well, the burn was a little bumpy but evened out, and didn't really start going out until that last 1.5in. Next time im going to try the dry box technique that you mentioned camgfs as most of mine do tend to be full bodied, but overall this time was an improvement to the last. So, like you all have said "Practice makes perfect", and im going to keep on practicing!!
    ENJOY! And good luck working on your technique! (No, not that technique.... that you mastered in Junior high)

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